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Rossa and Rosco, first impressions.

Well the twins arrived safe and sound a couple of days ago, well packaged so little chance of damage.
My initial impression without going into a lot of detail.

The Rosco, solid, beautifully finished, easy to use and adjust, grinds nicely, have even ground a few shots for the Bezerra and on first impressions it seems to produce a superior grind to my Mini Mazzer, money well spent, my one criticism is the plastic ground coffee container (looks like  the lid for a hair spay can) it builds up static during the grinding process and is a bit of a PITA to empty, the only way to get all of the coffee out is with a brush and even then it's a chore, I suspect a metal container would have been far more satisfactory.

Rossa Hand Espresso.

As with the Rosco, solid, beautifully finished, the instructions tell us to follow them implicitly (do not deviate) so I did, using the Rossa so far has been a less than stellar experience, we are told the thread needs lubricating before every shot (yep I did it) will be a little tight at first and improve after half a dozen shots (understatement) the thread is very stiff and does not seem to be improving, very jerky and tight to wind in, almost impossible to wind it all the way home in 30 seconds, and preheating with boiling water  compounds the situation, trying to steady it on the stand while winding it in is almost impossible, the average female would not have a snow balls hope in hell.
What have I seen in the cup? a brew that is much closer to espresso than the Aeropress ever was, it's quite drinkable, but sadly lacking any trace of crema, the same beans are producing excellent crema in the Bezzera.
So, to summarise, very happy with the grinder, everything I expected, the Rossa? at this point it will need to improve a heck of a lot to ever become a favourite coffee maker.
Perhaps a month of using it daily will break it in and see the shots improve, if not I suspect it's destined to become an expensive dust gatherer. :( 

Comments

  • That's a shame DB - stick with it, hopefully it'll loosen up somewhat! I saw the Rosco at the QLD social a few weeks back when C-Man brought one along. Was quite impressed with its durability and general good looks. Much nicer than my Hario! How long does it take you to grind out a double shot with the Rosco hand grinder?
  • As an update seems my reference to the grinder and static applies only when grinding for Turkish, when grinding for espresso there is virtually no retention due to static. :)
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    That's a shame DB - stick with it, hopefully it'll loosen up somewhat! I saw the Rosco at the QLD social a few weeks back when C-Man brought one along. Was quite impressed with its durability and general good looks. Much nicer than my Hario! How long does it take you to grind out a double shot with the Rosco hand grinder?
    Have not timed it, however 18 grams with the grinder set at 080mm takes almost spot on 100 turns of the handle. :)
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    Have not timed it, however 18 grams with the grinder set at 080mm takes almost spot on 100 turns of the handle. :)
    Geez this could almost cross over into the coffee vs weight gain thread. Keep cranking DB and neutralise those calories  :D
  • on 1342956781:
    Geez this could almost cross over into the coffee vs weight gain thread. Keep cranking DB and neutralise those calories  :D
    Would be real easy to stick the right size socket in the electric drill and go for it, guess that would be kinda cheating. ;)
  • on 1342959183:
    Would be real easy to stick the right size socket in the electric drill and go for it, guess that would be kinda cheating. ;)
    what size socket? I don't see this as cheating at all. I think any quality hand grinder should allow for use of an external drive assembly.
  • I use my drill on my Kyocera.
  • I have the Rosco Mini- grinder and am very happy with it, it is a cheaper way for me to own a good grinder, about the same quality as a $1,500+ electric one for only just under $400 But I did not buy the Rosso I went for a Presso instead as it looked more stable to use, trouble with the Presso is it will not take the upper pressure needed for extraction, it just starts to leak water at the top end pressure. but the baskets is designed to work at lower pressures with plenty of holes in it. I would like to try the Rosso even though it may be hard to handle, just because I could get more pressure and see if that made any difference. The presso shots do taste good with lots of creama just wonder how much better the Rosso would be?
  • Is it working any better yet? or have you gave up on it?
  • The Rosco/Rossa combo was bought for travel use, they have been sitting in the motor home for the past 6 or 8 weeks, did a trip to NSW about 10 days ago, so out came the Roco/Rossa, my opinion of the Rossa has not changed, what has changed is that during it's weeks off the grind adjustment ring on the Rosco has frozen solid, tried everything, cant budge it, obviously don't want to take to it with multigrips etc and mark the finish. As I said earlier, both devices beautifully made but in practice less than ideal. Yep I'm still usin em. :-|
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    The Rosco/Rossa combo was bought for travel use, they have been sitting in the motor home for the past 6 or 8 weeks, did a trip to NSW about 10 days ago, so out came the Roco/Rossa, my opinion of the Rossa has not changed, what has changed is that during it's weeks off the grind adjustment ring on the Rosco has frozen solid, tried everything, cant budge it, obviously don't want to take to it with multigrips etc and mark the finish. As I said earlier, both devices beautifully made but in practice less than ideal. Yep I'm still usin em. :-|
    go to super cheap auto and get a cloth wrench to loosen the adjustment ring. anything else with scratch the soft brass
  • on 1351629153:
    go to super cheap auto and get a cloth wrench to loosen the adjustment ring. anything else with scratch the soft brass
    Thanks C Man, Spoke with Ross from Portapresso the other day and he suggested the same thing. :)
  • on 1351617131:
    oh photos please!
    Must admit I'm not really inspired to take pics of them, the satisfaction level is not all that high. :(
  • Alas the learning curve appears too steep for some? Practice man, practice, practice and perfection will follow... Or sell Em to mee an I'll do the practice for you!
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    Alas the learning curve appears too steep for some?
    I hope your only joking. :-|
  • I bought the Rossa with the gauge last Christmas and I had really mixed results.... until the inventor placed a few video clips on his website showing rapid turning ( a lot quicker than I was doing) of the lever at the commencement of a shot. If you don't do this, the pressure build-up (which is really obvious with the gauge) is too slow and the window of opportunity to get a truly fabulous shot is missed. If you try to build up the pressure after the window has closed you will not be able to build it up, no matter how quickly you turn the handle and just will not succeed in a good shot. Build the pressure up and coast into the desired pressure that you want for the particular coffee that you have. From this point you can really profile the shot....up and down pressure as desired. Otherwise....forget it. Get it right and the espresso that comes is wonderful. Truly wonderful. Get it wrong and the results are woeful. I was ready to throw mine against a wall until I tried mimicking the video. I am so glad that I perservered. It IS the genuine article. There IS a definite learning curve. I reckon that the stand to steady the machine during extraction is a must-have. I had to forget about extraction times and volume of shots and just get in rhythm with the device. Once you get the idea of what you are meant to do, it is a feeling more than anything. Some of the best shots that I have had were made on this device. Kudos to the inventor for having the dream and skill to craft such an amazing espresso machine. If I am making coffee for myself only, it is my weapon of choice. Regarding the Rosco, 18 gms of beans take me 40 seconds to grind for espresso with the Rossa. Quite acceptable considering the quality of grinds that you get.
  • I have taken my little Rosco hand grinder into rosters and ground beans and they pulled amazing shots from it on high quality commercial machines, A good way to taste different beans that are not on the grind that day. everyone has been impressed with the grinder, it does have some quirks that you need to be aware of and get used to, that's all.
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