Ponte Vecchio Lusso - advice please?

C-man

let me know what you think of the Tiger I was disappointed with it, yet others loved it. I have some Honduras COE at the moment going to try it tomorrow

Moon

C-man wrote:

let me know what you think of the Tiger I was disappointed with it, yet others loved it.

By request Indian Tiger Mountain - single origin Roast date - 19th June (1 week) Dose - 16.5g Tamp - Light Triple fellini (due to fast initial pour) Pour - 20 secs for 20ml Rating - 9.4/10 Seemed like a fastish pour but managed to go the 20 secs.. surprisingly. Lots of crema and looked like it was a winner in the cup after the milk was added. Beautiful coffee. I'm one of the fans of this bean now ... of course, along with my Ponte Vecchio Lusso lever and Compak grinder. Yep .. Couldn't have done it without ya. :thumb: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Up watching the Tennis ~~late~~ early in the morning, so I snuck out to have another Yirg. Ethiopian Yirgacheffe (Konga) - single origin Roast date - 19th June (1 week) Dose - 16g Tamp - Light+ Double fellini Pour - 35 secs for 20ml Rating - 9.42/10 Thought I should have only gone the single fellini .. as the pour was a little drippy and not a constant flow.. so it took longer for the arm to rise to completion. Woweee .. due to the slower extraction .. this coffee was ultra full-flavoured with a deeper colour compared to the previous Yirg. No hint of a downside here .. delicious. Highest rating to date. Using the better Farmhouse Gold milk has added a 0.1 to ratings since using it. This coffee would have rated a 9.32/10 pre-FH Gold milk. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Brett_H

Them's some high scores. I'm just hazarding a guess but I reckon your machine is on the warm side at group temp. I wonder how you'd go with a very special bean I'm roasting this weekend. If there's enough I'll send you some... Reckon your machine'd love it!! Nice stuff Jonty... Kudos!!!

Moon

Brett H wrote:

Them's some high scores. I'm just hazarding a guess but I reckon your machine is on the warm side at group temp. I wonder how you'd go with a very special bean I'm roasting this weekend. If there's enough I'll send you some... Reckon your machine'd love it!! Nice stuff Jonty... Kudos!!!

I should get one of those temperature strips I read about to check group temp. Having problems with consistency with Major Tom .. 8.9 through to 9.35 Got lucky with Jonty's beans .. same grind setting on the machine for MT - suited both beans perfectly. All the stars aligned. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Indian Monsoon Malobar (MM) - single origin Roast date - 5th June (3 weeks) Dose - 17g Tamp - KK Gorilla Grind - 4mm finer than MT Triple fellini Pour - 15 secs for 20ml Rating - 8.7/10 Heaps of crema. So far .. can't seem to slow the pour down .. too gushy. Leaves a dry after-taste (mouth feel) - and lacks body. Pretty good .. but not up with the big boys (& girls) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Brett_H

Tighten up that grind mate! Forget the tamp... You can't tamp anywhere near 9atmsopheres of pressure on that puck. Your dosage is excellent, I asdume your distribution is good ... grind, grind, grind.... Go you good thing!!!

Brett_H

Obviously do the tamp but as long as it's consistent.... 😉

Lacehim

I did a few god shots on my PV lusso when I forgot to tamp! lol.

Moon

I've had many good coffees using 'littleroundman's' polish only method. The more 'dense' type beans respond well .. only it didn't suit all beans .. and definitely not the MM type ones. Hmm? It's coffee time, and my dilemma is - should I choose a bean that rated an 8.7/10 last time .. and try to do better .. or do I go for one that scored a 9.4/10 last time? Tough decision that. :rofl: Back soon.

Moon

Ethiopian Yirgacheffe - single origin Roasted 18th June (9 days) - by Jonty Dose - 16g Tamp - Light Grind - MT Double fellini Pour - 35 secs for 18ml Rating - 9.4/10 Superb. The only downside - is that it is so nice .. you keep drinking it until it's all gone. The ecstasy doesn't last long. Shame that.. 😢 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Next - Indian Monsoon Malobar

Moon

Indian Monsoon Malobar (MM) single origin Roast date - 5th June (23 days) by Brett Adjusted grind setting 2cm finer than std MT setting. Too fine, and although didn't choke .. was a very slow drip ---> sinker. Adjusted grind back 0.5cm to 1.5cm finer than MT Dose - 16g Tamp - polish only Pour - 25 secs for 20ml Rating - 9.1/10 Much better. If not for the dry mouthfeel .. would have scored a little better. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Brett_H

I had an MM from this batch yesterday and am inclined to agree. I've gone a tad dark with the roast which while it would suit a lot of palates doesn't suit mine. The pour was perfection through the VST and the shot looked amazing in the cup. The score however: 9.15/10 I'm going to put my machine up to 95deg today and do the MM and the remaining MajTom. Real hot... Real coffee, real fun!

Moon

Indian Tiger Mountain - single origin Roast date 19th June (11 days) - by Jonty The first attempt I did a light tamp instead of hard - and it poured too quickly - 10 secs --> sinker Second Dose - 17g Tamp - Hard Grind - MT Double fellini Pour - 25 secs for 18ml Rating - 9.42/10 Delish. I think I like the flavour of this bean a tad more than the Yirgacheffe.

Lwowiak

Hi Moon, I am curious that you have not blended the MM with anything. Just put 10g of Rwanda or Yirg into your measuring device, and top up with MM, say 6 or 6.5g. You may be pleasantly surprised at the flavours you get in the cup. One bean sometimes compliments and accentuates the flavours from other beans, making the resultant drink very nice. After all, that is how blends are created. That MM might be average on its own, but could really shine in a blend. Regards L.

Kevohere

Lwowiak wrote:

Hi Moon, I am curious that you have not blended the MM with anything. Just put 10g of Rwanda or Yirg into your measuring device, and top up with MM, say 6 or 6.5g. You may be pleasantly surprised at the flavours you get in the cup. One bean sometimes compliments and accentuates the flavours from other beans, making the resultant drink very nice. After all, that is how blends are created. That MM might be average on its own, but could really shine in a blend. Regards L.

What he said! :coffee2:

GaryatGala

Great to read discussions of everyone's coffee journey in this forum. My two cents worth. Keep the tamp and dosage consistent. Distribution and tamp level to be as even as possible. If it's a 15 kg tamp, keep it as 15 kg tamp throughout, if the basket rates at 18 grams, keep it as 18 grams. Only change the grind fineness / coarseness settings. If possible, change temperature settings according to bean roast profile and age. For consistency, taste at least two espressos and evaluate. This way, there are less variables to consider and more simple pleasures of espresso enjoyment.

C-man

GaryatGala wrote:

Great to read discussions of everyone's coffee journey in this forum. My two cents worth. Keep the tamp and dosage consistent. Distribution and tamp level to be as even as possible. If it's a 15 kg tamp, keep it as 15 kg tamp throughout, if the basket rates at 18 grams, keep it as 18 grams. Only change the grind fineness / coarseness settings. I suggested that to him before.... If possible, change temperature settings according to bean roast profile and age. For consistency, taste at least two espressos and evaluate. This way, there are less variables to consider and more simple pleasures of espresso enjoyment.

Brett_H

GaryatGala wrote:

Great to read discussions of everyone's coffee journey in this forum. My two cents worth. Keep the tamp and dosage consistent. Distribution and tamp level to be as even as possible. If it's a 15 kg tamp, keep it as 15 kg tamp throughout, if the basket rates at 18 grams, keep it as 18 grams. Only change the grind fineness / coarseness settings. If possible, change temperature settings according to bean roast profile and age. For consistency, taste at least two espressos and evaluate. This way, there are less variables to consider and more simple pleasures of espresso enjoyment.

Great advice!!

Moon

After taking tips from ^ I have standardized the dose and tamp .. and altered the grind setting. Indian Tiger Mountain - single origin Roast date - 19th June (12 days) - by Jonty Dose - 17g Tamp - Light Pour - 30 secs for 20ml Rating - 9.5/10 <----- Whoaaaah ;D Excellent crema. The pour recently hasn't bean a continuous from the center of the PF. It has been thick drips from 4 points evenly distributed around the outside of the PF - along with another from the centre i guess this would mean the distribution of grinds in the basket is perfect from what I have read about the pour .. with no channelling favoring the grinds in the centre of the puck. Stunning latte that one. Thanks for the heads-up fellas. :thumb: I will be keeping the dose and tamp standard as recommended by the experienced Coffee Gurus (above) and only adjust the grind to achieve the right pour from now on .. see how it goes? Cheers :coffee2: Blimey .. that was a nice cup of coffee. Not full-on .. only it doesn't need to be to impress me. 8)

Brett_H

Wow, at this rate you're going to need to start marking out of 11 😉

Moon

I needed to find a bean that I could rate above your 9.4/10 that you gave Merlo's Forza Forza couldn't possibly be the best beans going around .. surely .. well not in my opinion anyway. Having said that .. I may have to reset my scores if they do keep going up. As previously mentioned .. the better milk has added 0.1 to the ratings and now that I'm using a finer grind .. it has also improved the quality of the coffee in the cup .. so compared to the coffees I had been making .. the rating has definitely gone to a new level. Just had another Yirgacheffe which compared to the Indian Tiger Mountain is equally as good, therefore also deserving a 9.5/10. The pour was slower, being 35 secs for 15ml and required a 2nd fellini to top up to 18ml. The grind setting for the Indian Tiger Mountain needs to be a little coarser than for the Yirgacheffe. These beans are top shelf .. so once I return back to other beans .. the rating will no doubt drop back. I certainly am enjoying these beans from Jonty immensely . as the coffees have bean superb, and the best I have made so far.

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