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My Pimped K3 Push

MOQMOQ
edited January 1970 in Grinders
Since I bought the K3 Push I've not been very happy with its performance. As I dared to turn the setting finer and finer the burrs would touch (YIKES) and I'd back it off.

One day I noticed there was a fair amount of fore-aft rocking play in the adjusting collar. If I get close to the right grind and lightly touch the front of the collar, the burrs would touch. If I pressed at the rear the touching would stop.

I have a dial indicator and measured the rocking play at about 12-thou inch (about 0.3mm). That struck me as a huge amount of play and potential for crazy grind variance.

To my mind the issue is twofold. That the thread in the main body was machined askew, and the thread length in the adjusting collar is too short allowing the rocking play. Or the other possibility is that the motor is not on axis with the threads.

Whichever it is the burrs cannot ever be parallel to one another and thus the grinds go from too fine to too coarse, the average of which is how I have to adjust the grinder to get a satisfactory pour.

Early December I was lucky enough to have a K6 for a week and the differences in taste were astonishing. This inspired me to play around with the K3 to see if I could get the burrs to be more parallel somehow.

The first few attempts were cumbersome ... I would grind while pressing down at the rear, trying to maintain the same position, pressure (is it too much, is it too little).

Eventually I came across the following solution - announcing MOQ's K3 Push burr parallelism fixing device, patent pending  ;D

(the little white thing that looks a lot like a clothes peg)
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Comments

  • :thumb: :rofl: Some excellent thinking there in regards to an issue I have personally experienced.  I had a K3 for a bit before returning it in favour for a Rocky!! I have since seen another K3 in the wild since and it didn't have anywhere near the collar play mine had.  Mine was brand new but not great... Or even good.  My K10 has no play, my F5 has no play... Rocky has a little fixed by the tape mod and the Lux and A8 have none either.  It's not what makes them as grinders but it's one less thing to worry about in the myriad of variables associated with great coffee.  I notice your machine is an R58... Wow... You are clearly in search of great coffee.  Good luck mate!! Hopefully your retailer will be as understanding as mine was here in BrisVegas and swap it for a unit that works more appropriately. 
  • Hi MOQ Nice improvisation, but don't you mean .... "K3 Push-Equilibrium-Grapple"  (or as you and me would say K3 PEG)
  • I would email that to Compak... here's the only way I can get your grinder to grind properly! Also mention a few forums posts and facebook, you might get some action on it. :)
  • on 1389177942:
    Hi MOQ Nice improvisation, but don't you mean .... "K3 Push-Equilibrium-Grapple"  (or as you and me would say K3 PEG)
    Ha Ha !! The perfect acronym! We can share in the royalties!
  • on 1389179705:
    I would email that to Compak... here's the only way I can get your grinder to grind properly! Also mention a few forums posts and facebook, you might get some action on it. :)
    This grinder is a just a mid-step ... I am in the middle of rebuilding a used BNZ conical that has been totally disassembled and most of the boring grey painted parts have been sent to a powdercoater who specialises in prismatic flake coatings. I chose something to really bling up the BNZ ... once it's commissioned expect to see a few close up shots of the effect. After that I'll contact the retailer and maybe the distributor to see what they can do with my somewhat sick K3. I hope will do something, it hasn't been right from day 1.
  • on 1389176099:
    :thumb: :rofl: Some excellent thinking there in regards to an issue I have personally experienced.  I had a K3 for a bit before returning it in favour for a Rocky!! I have since seen another K3 in the wild since and it didn't have anywhere near the collar play mine had.  Mine was brand new but not great... Or even good.  My K10 has no play, my F5 has no play... Rocky has a little fixed by the tape mod and the Lux and A8 have none either.  It's not what makes them as grinders but it's one less thing to worry about in the myriad of variables associated with great coffee.  I notice your machine is an R58... Wow... You are clearly in search of great coffee.  Good luck mate!! Hopefully your retailer will be as understanding as mine was here in BrisVegas and swap it for a unit that works more appropriately.
    I had thought of teflon tape but the Compaks have three deep grooves where the collar screws into and I suspect these would tear the tape to pieces and leave an awful mess to clean up inside later. I have a mate with a much newer K3 Push, he uses it for cold brew in his cafe and reckons it's a great little grinder. What will be interesting is to take mine down there one day and do a comparison at espresso grind, see how they compare. Thanks for your good wishes, I hope I get some understanding as well! I forgot to mention something in the original post ... or to answer the obvious questions ... "so how do the coffees taste now?" Given that I spent more than 6 months wasting a lot of time and effort fiddling with all the parameters of both grinder and machine, the K3 PEG mod has produced a huge improvement in a very short time. It's a joy to watch the flow out of the naked PF, almost as much a thrill as tasting the actual product. Still ... I'm hanging out for the call from the powdercoater "Your parts are ready". Those words will be music to my ears for sure! And then onto the next phase.
  • on 1389189099:
    Still ... I'm hanging out for the call from the powdercoater "Your parts are ready". Those words will be music to my ears for sure! And then onto the next phase.
    And now it's done ...
  • Time to put that K3 out of it's misery and hang it out to dry! ;)
  • on 1390480061:
    Time to put that K3 out of it's misery and hang it out to dry! ;)
    Not so fast ... I might give it a work out for pour-overs!
  • on 1390480129:
    Not so fast ... I might give it a work out for pour-overs!
    Sounds fine but let the  importer or distributor at least look at if for you to rectify the issue.  Even pour-overs need a consistent grind. Or do they...??
  • For sure, now that the BNZ is working I'll approach the retailer and/or importer to see if they have any ideas about fixing it. While I do have a mate who is interested in the grinder (and he's fully aware of my gripe about it), I don't feel right selling it knowing it's not right. I'm a bit weird that way. I'm sure a pour-over also needs a consistent grind, but with the PEG mod it's heaps better and would probably work just fine for this. I'm sure I'll meet substantial resistance/consternation/indignation if I was to suggest we retain it now that the humongous BNZ is in place. I'm confident the BNZ will grind for pour-overs better than the K3 anyway. It'd also be nice to get some cash back for it.
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