Eureka Atom

Cuir Beluga

So.....I am wanting a grinder upgrade. I was going to do it a while back but didn't get around to it.

I have been looking at the Eureka Atom but am not sure just yet. It seems to tick all the boxes but I haven't made a final decision.

Is anyone one using one and can tell me a bit about them?

Thanks.

Brett H

I had a look at one of these yesterday when I went to ICT for some beans. They are using it on the bench. I didn’t get much of a look, but enough to see that it’s solid, looks good and isn’t massive... good for bench real estate. The wonderful manager of the shop did however intimate that grind retention is less in the Baratza range so perhaps check them out as well. Keep us posted!

Cuir Beluga

That is what I want, solid and good looks lol :D. I wanted to upgrade my machine but everything I wanted was more of a side step than a step up so I decided to go with a grinder upgrade. I just feel like I need a change I guess. I will be hanging on to the M2M and my Smart Grinder Pro found a new home with my folks at their holiday house as they just bought a second hand Unico Splendor and it only came with a herb chopper type grinder.

Brett H

Dear God... a splender paired with whirly-grinder!? That’s hilarious!

K_Bean_Coffee

Hi there, The Eureka Atom is amazing but for home use I recommend the Eureka Silenzio or the Eureka Specialita for lower grind retention, smaller footprints and better looks (I think). To read more and to watch video reviews click here Happy to chat any time. Cheers Paul

Brett H

Awesome, thanks KB

Cuir Beluga

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Dear God... a splender paired with whirly-grinder!? That’s hilarious!

Funny and sad all at the same time  ;D.

Cuir Beluga

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Hi there, The Eureka Atom is amazing but for home use I recommend the Eureka Silenzio or the Eureka Specialita for lower grind retention, smaller footprints and better looks (I think). To read more and to watch video reviews click here Happy to chat any time. Cheers Paul

Hi. I've briefly had a look at them too. I would have thought the grind retention would have been in the same ball park? I am not really pushed for space so physical size is probably neither here nor there. Just toying with ideas at the moment but definitely do want something new. I'll be making the purchase in around three months or so so I have a bit of time to look around. I have to say the Zenith has caught my eye also. Thanks.

K_Bean_Coffee

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I have to say the Zenith has caught my eye also.

Avert your eye The Eureka Zenith looks good in paper but build quality isn’t close to the new Atom and Mignon range. It’s quick but not as well built and it doesn’t have the “silent grind” technology. You might like the speedy Eureka Atom 65E. Watch lots of video reviews and find the best coffee grinder for your bench. Heaps of choices. Cheers again, Paul

Cuir Beluga

Ah, in that case :/. I'll keep looking as I did when I bought my machine. I whittled it down to two choices and then it pretty much came down to aesthetics. Thanks again.

K_Bean_Coffee

That’s the way. I reckon half of the fun is in the hunt. Enjoy

Cuir Beluga

It certainly is. I experience the "thrill of the hunt" in my other "hobby" and it is all part of it. You can't beat a long awaited parcel turning up on the door step.

Cuir Beluga

OK. I am now inching towards the Macap M4D. Thoughts?

Brett H

Love it but worry about grind retention.

Cuir Beluga

Any more or less than the M2M?

Brett H

I really couldn’t say as I’ve never played side by side. It’s a question for KBean!

Lwowiak

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OK. I am now inching towards the Macap M4D. Thoughts?

Hi CB, I have had the M4D for 7 years now and have been very happy with it. As to grind retention, it is minimal, no more than 2g at the most, and that depends on roast depth. Darker roasts that have more oil, tend to be retained more than light roasts in this grinder. Overall the retention is negligible, to be honest. If you roast light and like to grind super fine, then I would not recommend a M4D, but something on the next level. I have used a doserless Kony E, and it had retention of around 18-20g. too much mucking around for me, though the grind was excellent. I was in the same boat as yourself, looking for a grinder with minimal grind retention, as I usually single dose. There is an Electra Nino grinder for sale on CS, they want too much for it, but you may be able to negotiate a deal with them. The Nino has been around for years, and has minimal retention for a Conical. For myself, I looked long and hard and have settled on an Etzinger EtzMAX as the best upgrade from an M4D. They are easy to clean, have almost no grind retention and are built to last. They are grind by weight and have a small footprint. Though tempted by all the Conicals that have been coming up, none suit my needs as they all suffer from grind retention, are too big or just don't take my fancy. Good luck with your upgrade, let us know what you decide upon.

Cuir Beluga

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I really couldn’t say as I’ve never played side by side. It’s a question for KBean!

Thanks Brett  :coffee2:

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Hi CB, I have had the M4D for 7 years now and have been very happy with it. As to grind retention, it is minimal, no more than 2g at the most, and that depends on roast depth. Darker roasts that have more oil, tend to be retained more than light roasts in this grinder. Overall the retention is negligible, to be honest. If you roast light and like to grind super fine, then I would not recommend a M4D, but something on the next level. I have used a doserless Kony E, and it had retention of around 18-20g. too much mucking around for me, though the grind was excellent. I was in the same boat as yourself, looking for a grinder with minimal grind retention, as I usually single dose. There is an Electra Nino grinder for sale on CS, they want too much for it, but you may be able to negotiate a deal with them. The Nino has been around for years, and has minimal retention for a Conical. For myself, I looked long and hard and have settled on an Etzinger EtzMAX as the best upgrade from an M4D. They are easy to clean, have almost no grind retention and are built to last. They are grind by weight and have a small footprint. Though tempted by all the Conicals that have been coming up, none suit my needs as they all suffer from grind retention, are too big or just don't take my fancy. Good luck with your upgrade, let us know what you decide upon.

Hi Lwowiak. Thanks for that info. The conical bug has not as yet grabbed me. I keep going between the M4D, Atom, looked at the Zenith and even, very briefly, the Niche. I keep coming back to the Atom or M4D. I'll just have to keep looking. Thanks again.

Kjarsheim

Have you considered the Niche Zero? I don't have personal experience but were I looking to upgrade from my Macap M2D (not anytime soon), that would be the main contender for a few reasons: Like its single dose focus with virtually zero retention; Titan class conical burrs - only real reason to upgrade from a little-wonder flat burr like the Macap IMHO; plus its kinda cute, visually appealing and seems to be developing an enormous fan base

Brett H

Actually, that’s a great call! https://www.coffeeparts.com.au/niche-zero-specialty-espresso-coffee-grinder-white

Cuir Beluga

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Have you considered the Niche Zero? I don't have personal experience but were I looking to upgrade from my Macap M2D (not anytime soon), that would be the main contender for a few reasons: Like its single dose focus with virtually zero retention; Titan class conical burrs - only real reason to upgrade from a little-wonder flat burr like the Macap IMHO; plus its kinda cute, visually appealing and seems to be developing an enormous fan base

Hi Kjarshein. I did briefly consider it while I was reading about them until I read they were no longer UK made. To be honest they don't really do it for me aesthetically either. I just don't want to end up with buyers remorse  :'(

Kjarsheim

Lol, fair enough. Thats why Toyota, Mazda et al co-exist, for example....people have differing priorities, aesthetics and needs for fulfilling essentially the same purpose. I must admit my first thoughts on the appearance of the Niche were not exactly complimentary, more along the lines of 'Design By Fisher Price?'

Cuir Beluga

That's it. Different strokes for different folks. I very nearly bit the bullet last night but couldn't quite do it lol. I guess that means I really don't know what I want yet. The Niche looks to be a very "modern" design, not sure how it would look sitting next to a Unico Splendor and Europiccola  >:D

K_Bean_Coffee

Hi guys, I’m back after 2 amazing weeks in Ethiopia visiting Gesha Plantations. Re grinders, I love the Eureka Silenzio and Eureka Specialita for home. Here’s a blurb from my website: “The Eureka Mignon Silenzio and Soecialita are  compact commercial coffee grinders that are absolutely ideal for home use. They feature stepless micrometric grind adjustment, patented silent grind technology, a hands free PF holder, ACE anti-clumping technology and an innovative easy-to-clean design. The Eureka Silenzio and the Eureka Specialita coffee grinders have it all. Fast, quiet, fluffy mess free, clump free grinding all with less than 1 gram of grind retention.  The Silenzio and Specialita are both great push-to-grind coffee grinders. They are also great for timed dosing. For most grinders timed grinding is not a great option due to dosing accuracy of +/- 1 gram. With the Eureka Silenzio and Specialita it’s a different story with typical timed dosing accuracy of +/- 0.2 grams. Great value (amazing value) and highly recommended.” Link to video review: https://www.kbean.com.au/coffee-grinders/eureka-mignon-silenzio

Cuir Beluga

I ended up doing a side grade. I am getting my Europiccola back up and running and decided I couldn't be bothered adjusting the grind everytime I wanted to change machines so as I have been so happy with the M2M I ordered a M2D on Friday night.