Sunbeam EM7000

admin · August 2012

this is just an I-Phone pic [available light] but have to say it's a nice-looking little twin thermoblock unit; AM you'll be interested to know that they actually flew Josh Russell down to be one of the host baristas [as well as the lady from the Sunbeam training school in Brissy] - Josh was pulling some really nice shots out of it... fyi may have some progress on getting that review unit, will PM on Monday when I know for sure. they didn't give out a press release with tech stuff, but went on about the 'handle' for some reason; it's just that it was a PR babe who was doing most of the talking, and she clearly had no idea :doh: - will try and find out more; also [once I sort out the technology] will load a little clip I took of Greg, their head barista's two-minute spiel. A

Brett H · August 2012

Wow...fantastic! Can't wait to hear all the gossip! I love it that the more accessible machine market is thinking outside the box with clever little innovations. The BES900 is surely to thank for this renewed vigor from their nearest $ competitor. :thumb:

derrilex · August 2012

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However like many, it is the steam and group collar parts that have my attention...

If they have managed to tame and improve those two aspects and priced it accordingly........ let the battle commence :D

admin · August 2012

a bit cheesy perhaps, but this is a quick promo video for the new machine, narrated by Greg, their chief barista in Sydney:

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If they have managed to tame and improve those two aspects and priced it accordingly........ let the battle commence :D

Josh [Russell] certainly stated pretty much the same thing yesterday D/lex - ie at RRP $899 [& you can presumably expect it to go a bit lower in our competitive current retail environment] it's pitched at a pretty amazing price/performance point.

Koffee_Kosmo · September 2012

Very good indeed :thumb: Will be waiting for the review warts and all KK

Brett H · September 2012

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For those that may not be aware; with the assistance of Libby & the team of Crema Magazine fame & Sunbeam have provided me with an EM7000 to review. Once this is under way, I will need a few ex EM6910 users to drop over at some time. Once this is all documented the review will go up in the Machine review area. Many thanks to Crema Mag staff and those at Sunbeam. PS. I also see Sumbeam provided feedback to the other review http://www.productreview.com.au/r/sunbeam-em7000/269691.html#comment I am sure the issue of dual floor baskets will remain and I am aware of some that use them in prosumer machines as they persist with poor quality beans and blade grinders. Education is and will be ongoing re coffee as every one has their own take on the subject.

Brilliant mate! How very exciting! Great work Crema!!

derrilex · September 2012

Wow, just...wow. Top work guys. :thumb: I'm in AM as a " ex 6910 owner"

admin · September 2012

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For those that may not be aware; with the assistance of Libby & the team, of Crema Magazine fame & Sunbeam have provided me with an EM7000 to review. Once this is under way, I will need a few ex EM6910 users to drop over at some time. Once this is all documented the review will go up in the Machine review area. Many thanks to Crema Mag staff and those at Sunbeam. PS. I also see Sumbeam provided feedback to the other review http://www.productreview.com.au/r/sunbeam-em7000/269691.html#comment I am sure the issue of dual floor baskets will remain and I am aware of some that use them in prosumer machines as they persist with poor quality beans and blade grinders. Education is and will be ongoing re coffee as every one has their own take on the subject.

glad it finally got there mate; can't wait to see your analysis! A

derrilex · September 2012

At last, a legitimate reason to play with a machine all weekend :rofl: :rofl: Research honey, research. :pan :rofl:

derrilex · September 2012

Just hide the minore and the baby lever and she how quickly she becomes receptive to the 7000 :rofl: More than one way to skin a wife cat.

Lacehim · September 2012

AM - outsource the photos/video if someone is interested. Maybe Brett could do them. D's resin photos looked good.

Kelsey · September 2012

I might be coming to Bris next week and stuck on the North side. If so, happy to shoot some vids.

Brett H · September 2012

This weekend is an issue but may be able to wragle some shore-leave next week

Keep up the great work AM!!

derrilex · September 2012

GAGA over the COE, yes, yes I did :D My impressions of the 7000. Looking from the front its plain but pleasant. The sides look a bit utilitarian but in a appliance environment surrounded by toasters etc... its no biggy. Just a lack of bling. When the machine is powered up both gauges go through their full swing and back to zero - a direct rip off from the auto industry - I like it. Like the PF ( apart from the handle) and the little rubber tamping block seemed to work great. AM pointed out that making it nude would present some challenges. A quick adjust of the steam to + 5 degrees and the next driest setting from default and we were away. AM was using a BSG ( which I thought was his vario - super observant me) and it appeared to do a decent job. The first shot looked really good. A bit gassy but I wouldn't complain if got that out of the BZ. Milk texturing time. 600 ml jug with 2 probes so we could compare with the temp gauge reading on the machine. The steam looked pretty good and certainly 300 % better than my 6910 ever was. It did take quite a while to get up to around 60 degrees and I would probably go to a small jug and steam twice rather than persist with the 600 ml. Still, it did do the job. The machine temp probe seemed to be reasonably accurate within a few degrees of the 2 test probes. The biggest difference is the quietness of the 7000. It is astonishingly quiet, not just compared to the 6910, but any machine with a vibe pump. ( easily as quite as your machine Brett while brewing and makes my BZ sound like a tractor) The shots were good, even as a SB. In fact I really liked the SB which for me is saying something ( probably just the COE though :D) I didnt see Mrs. AM sink her FW either so I assume she didnt object. Build quality looks quiet good externally but its under the skin where the biggest improvements are evident. Really thick insulated side panels do the job. No hard lines anywhere minimises vibration and noise transfer. Excellent layout of thermoblocks and wiring. No hot water tap, just a micro switch and a solenoid. AM showed me the guts of a 6910 and I have to say there is no comparison ( apart from a few components) in layout. The 6910 is like a narrow hole into which everything was jambed. The 7000 looks very logical and pretty well thought out. If I didnt know better I'd liken the layout to something made in Germany, with forethought given to the tech that will have to work on it :thumb: Pumps are underneath the machine, not in the main case. Easy to access for those qualified to do so. Some difference in the type of probes and sensors used with large gobs ( tech term) of reddish sealant around sensors instead of the old ceramic looking jobs. How relevant this is I dont know, but it looks like a advancement over the old. The 7000 bit AM a few times - firstly when he put finger on the end of the steam wand, secondly when checking how hot the collar was. Yes I laughed. It was funny. :laugh: :laugh: I do question Sunbeam's lack of dual floor baskets or any other fake crema device. A semi decent grinder and good beans and your golden ( like any machine really). Supermarket beans and a spice grinder opens a world of gushers. But overall it appears to be a quantum leap forward. As for longevity, only time will tell. Worth taking the chance ? If that's your budget, hells yeah.

derrilex · September 2012

Out of focus teaser pic

Brett H · September 2012

Great posts guys and obviously its early days yet, but bang for buck is pretty compelling. Thing about tractors ODX is that good ones tend to be over-manufactured and last a really long time. I reckon you're already on a winner

What is the resin/bling individualized customizable potetential (it's a term made up by me and shortened to BICP for obvious reasons)?? Now everybody say the long-hand version 10 times really fast while DX thinks about his answer. :coffee2:

derrilex · September 2012

Handle only I think

Gra · September 2012

Sound like they might be on a winner :thumb: great review Mark thanks Mate :thumb: :thumb: Cheers gra..

shape_shifter · September 2012

What I would like to see is you get some supermarket beans and do a comparison with FRESH beans. Just so it's out in people's faces what the difference is, video and all I think

Tunie · September 2012

Hello I'm new to the forum and hoping you very wise, knowledgeable types can please offer me some advice. First, confessions. All I know about coffee is I don't like instant nor do I like the coffee from the automatic machines. I am a past owner of a Breville Bar Vista who used supermarket pre ground coffee (oh the shame) and loved my one cup a day until my machine died. I did no maintenance what so ever. Sigh. I want to buy a new machine and am prepared to step up a little and spend some more, do a bit more work, maintenance etc. Haves been reading this thread with much interest because the 2 machines I like are the Sunbeam EM 7000 and the Breville BES 860. Any help greatly appreciated. When you say " a decent grinder" can you be any more specific. Eg how much would I need to spend, what brand, model etc would you suggest. And with the beans, where would I need to purchase from? I live in Adelaide. Many thanks, Kate

Gra · September 2012

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What we have here is a indication of what myself and Alex have observed and experienced to date. A full review of the Sumbeam EM7000 espresso machine will be published in the near future and will also be in a PDF format and not unlike what I did for the E61 Shuttle. As in that format the inclusion of pics goes a long way in assisting some to recognise and understand the changes.

I figured as much was just responding to your first post didn't mean for it to sound like that was it! We know you better then that.. ^-^ Gra..

derrilex · September 2012

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And for a little more of a taste. It also means that the only hot part of the machine is the cup tray area.

And the end of the steam wand.....and the collar :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :stir

derrilex · September 2012

Well thats as good as recognising the problem existed and being proactive about it, a far cry from other manufacturers and not just in the coffee industry :thumb:

Brett H · September 2012

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Handle only I think

Bummer!

Tunie · September 2012

Thanks AM for your thoughtful response. More food for thought. Cheers Kate

admin · September 2012

Hi Kate - just thought this might be useful also - a review we did a little while ago, which lays out what we thought were some of the key benefits of commonly available domestic grinders: http://www.bestcafes.com.au/grinder-review-a-sneak-preview

Brett H · September 2012

Fantastic review over there AM! You certainly got my vote!

derrilex · September 2012

Excellent mate :thumb:

derrilex · September 2012

Good news. Maybe might buy one as a roady/holiday machine

Brett H · September 2012

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Good news. Maybe might buy one as a roady/holiday machine

Wow, what if you could have a BDB900 at the same price.... which would you choose?

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