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mindimindi
edited January 1970 in Espresso Machines
Had a Rancilio Sylvia and Rocky grinder for years. Pretty happy really. Bench space challenges in a new property and a temporary but serious brainfade saw me sell them for a derisory $300 and start using Nes****o... which now costs me a mortgage per week. The coffee is not good, but better than I expected to be honest. I am going to buy a decent machine again and here is my dilemma. Most people who should know still seem to say that automatic machines produce bad coffee...full stop. Personally I would probably buy a Breville 920 which I can get for about $1400 including grinder... the other half of this team wants the new Jura Impressa F8 TFT which I must admit is a good looking bit of kit. ....Wish me well with my new Jura...but in the meantime does anyone know anything about the new Jura F8..?..and by implication other choices at that price point..?
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  • Brett HBrett H
    Hi Mindi and welcome.  Oh dear... What a sorry tale.  Gone is Miss Silvia and Mr Rocky a very capable setup and along comes Neswretcho.  Blurgh!  Stale foul tastes on a champagne budget.  You have my sympathies.  In fairness to the super autos they are capable of making good coffee provided you're fastidious with cleaning, maintenance and freshly roasted quality beans.  I've used a couple of the Jura machines over the years (I'd have to look up the model number of the one you mentioned) and they've all been quite frankly good.  I've never had any great joy with delonghi or breville machines but luckily haven't had to either.  They've belonged to others and I've been glad to hand them back. Hopefully someone with real info will step along to steer you more definitively in the right direction... but until then, welcome.
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  • Brett HBrett H
    Nope, used one similar and it was good.  Not manual machine with a good operator good but certainly I was surprised with the quality of the beverage.  I'd be calling Cosmorex in Canberra to get the best price and service then call MyCuppa and Ministry of Grounds to get the best beans to feed it! d4b723d1c818e1105d381a83e8ef8ed9_zps2a90500c.jpg
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  • C-manC-man
    I would rather have the Silvia...... new $739.00 delivered anywhere in Australia. And use the left over money for a grinder. people buy automatic machines hoping to make things simple, but in reality they require more work to maintain and keep clean.
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  • mindimindi
    Hahaha...can you imagine the domestic humiliation of selling a Silvia/Rocky and then buying them again two months later... how would you explain that even to yourself..? (let alone the finance manager)...duh... Maybe the newer ones have some tricky new lights..?
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  • Koffee_KosmoKoffee_Kosmo
    Welcome Mindi This is the perfect time to to get the UPgradeitis bug mid stream Go a Bezzera Strega Lever machine or any lever machine for that matter That wil put the cat amongst the pidgeos  :stir KK
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  • C-manC-man
    on 1407825042:
    Hahaha...can you imagine the domestic humiliation of selling a Silvia/Rocky and then buying them again two months later... how would you explain that even to yourself..? (let alone the finance manager)...duh... Maybe the newer ones have some tricky new lights..?
    not saying you should buy another Silvia, just saying I would take it over the Auto one. How do you explain selling a reasonable set-up for $300? If your talking $1400 there are plenty of top notch second hand Italian ones around Just looking at that Auto makes me wanna puke....
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  • LacehimLacehim
    Personally I would avoid a Silvia.  Great machine, but your better off with a HX.  The Silvia just has too many quirks that doing suit a household (like no low water level cut out for the element). If you want full control and don't mind a bit of mess, but you want quality coffee and the fun of making it, go for a modern HX machine or better. If you want to push a button and get good coffee without the mess and your not interested the "making process" then go for a quality auto like the Jura.  I would avoid cheaper ones unless you want it to spend extensive time in a repair shop, and make sure you keep it clean, and read the instructions!!!!  I personally don't like them but that's mainly because I like the simplicity of a proper machine, there is less to go wrong, and I can fix things myself.  If anything goes wrong with your Jura, your off to a service centre, so make sure you when you buy you make sure they can service it locally for you. Good luck.  Fresh beans are a must if you want quality coffee, avoid supermarkets completely!
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  • QM0996QM0996
    Agree..  Plenty of decent machines to be had for a song that will out last the BLING. The trick is to understand what you NEED VS what you think you want OR what a sales person wants to sell you. You do not need dual boilers / pid control / gauges every where...  Lacehim... How is that cheep plastic thing of yours ? There in is the answer  ;)
    on 1407989047:
    Personally I would avoid a Silvia.  Great machine, but your better off with a HX.  The Silvia just has too many quirks that doing suit a household (like no low water level cut out for the element). If you want full control and don't mind a bit of mess, but you want quality coffee and the fun of making it, go for a modern HX machine or better. If you want to push a button and get good coffee without the mess and your not interested the "making process" then go for a quality auto like the Jura.  I would avoid cheaper ones unless you want it to spend extensive time in a repair shop, and make sure you keep it clean, and read the instructions!!!!  I personally don't like them but that's mainly because I like the simplicity of a proper machine, there is less to go wrong, and I can fix things myself.  If anything goes wrong with your Jura, your off to a service centre, so make sure you when you buy you make sure they can service it locally for you. Good luck.  Fresh beans are a must if you want quality coffee, avoid supermarkets completely!
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  • Brett HBrett H
    on 1408028816:
    You do not need dual boilers / pid control / gauges every where... 
    :angel:
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  • GaryatGalaGaryatGala
    Hi mindi, Consider the Nuova Simonelli Oscar heat exchanger machine too. Around $1000, italian made and more reliable than the Breville, Sunbeam appliance style machines. Stick a two hole or one hole steam tip to it and you can achieve fantastic microfoam. Have had mine since mid last year. My main issue was the four hole tip, but that was fixed by installing aftermarket one and two hole tips. Great for entertaining groups since it steams quickly plus make the espresso shot at same time. Have a look at the youtube videos , including those by KK,s Strega. The bottom line is you want a great cup of coffee, go manual. In the long run it,s worth it. [emoji18][emoji106][emoji477]
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  • GaryatGalaGaryatGala
    If you still want to go the Jura route because your other half wants to be involved in the coffee making process, select the best beans possible as suggested by Brett. Properly fresh roasted beans by a reputable roaster will produce a far better cup than supermarket coffee that sits on shelves for many weeks at the warehouse and the shop shelves.
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