August 2012 Bean Swap

galumay · August 2012

My beans havent arrived as yet, sadly I am off to NZ tomorrow for 4 weeks so it will be a test of how well they last until I get back!

derrilex · August 2012

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo Fucken Auspost

RichardM · August 2012

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Almost to the end of the bag of my swap partners beans Left them to rest a little more and sampled them daily What is my guess of the beans in this blend ? I suspect as noted on an earlier post that I feel is has Monsooned Malabar, PNG pea berry and an Indonisian unless the pea berry sized beans are a Malawi

Well as you probably guessed by the bag, It was me that send them: So what was it then? - It was this blend: 120g Costa Rica San Isidro 100g Ethiopian Harrar 60g Colombian Supremo 20g Indian Kaapi Royale Robusta

Koffee_Kosmo · August 2012

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Well as you probably guessed by the bag, It was me that send them: So what was it then? - It was this blend: 120g Costa Rica San Isidro 100g Ethiopian Harrar 60g Colombian Supremo 20g Indian Kaapi Royale Robusta

I did not get to close then did I Still it's a totally pleasant blend KK

madpierre · August 2012

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oooo madpierre, I might have to convince your swap partner to send me some too

This is a coffee I could easily drink every day.

:D

Jonty · August 2012

Wife went to post office today... 6 pack of vino and a bag of coffee..... One BIG bag of coffee - aroma spewing out of the satchel

Roasted on the 4/8, so will get into it. Early look with no taste is it went to 2c and that at least a 2-3 bean blend (some small yemen beans?) Tomorrow will be taste time

RichardM · August 2012

Ok, Final notes on my SO. It was originally flat, lifeless as prevously mentioned. I've pulled the shot time out to about 35 seconds and ground a LOT finer and it's working far better in milk. Very tasty, in fact! I have a hunch it's a brazilian, but not 100% on that. With the blend I received, have only tasted it the once today, and it was full flavoured, but a bit one dimensional. I need to play with the grind a bit more, as I think it has some real potential. Looking forward to another one tonight (still annoyed I can't work out who sent it to me though >:( )

derrilex · August 2012

Oh well, since Aus post sent my beans to Gove on the back of a donkey ( or maybe a Landrover :stir) I may as well let G know what they are since they may not resemble beans in 4 weeks time. The blend was Columbian Supremo/Brazil Monte and the SO was Ugandan Mt Elgon

derrilex · August 2012

Ok, so I'm through Bags 1 & 2. Bag 1 - best way I can describe it is mellow. I liked it. Easy drinking but nothing jumped out at me. As a SB it didnt make my eyeballs fall out which is a plus. With milk it was just.....nice & mellow. Not overly bright which is good for me Bag 2 - A bit bright for my liking but still perfectly fine for my shagged taste buds. As a SB 1 eyeball fell out but milk tamed it well. Pics are Bag 1 shot - split double Bag 2 shot - split double While I'm at it, I had some of RM's beans at KK's. Good shop coffee was the verdict :thumb:

Tango · August 2012

Good to hear they were drinkable derrilex and I hope you enjoyed them! They were actually both SOs - Bag 1 was Mexico El Malinal Typica and Bag 2 was Ethiopian Ghimbi. I think by the sounds of it I should have taken the Ghimbi a bit darker. Thanks for the feedback

To lemoo - both bags are great, the Guji was really good as an espresso as well!

derrilex · August 2012

Thats cool Tango. They both poured nicely. Lots more crema with Bag 2. Ive never had either of those beans - partially explains why they were not familiar. Other part is crap palette :D

madpierre · August 2012

This is interesting. The blend has turned into a right crema monster, pumping out masses of beautiful creamy liquid. A short black this arvo had me pushing my left eye back into the socket, increasing brightness and acidity left me almost gasping. By the same token, a similarly increased push through the milk as well. Loving this coffee. Whatever AB and ABB were/are, I'm going to put a batch through the aeropress tonight.

galumay · August 2012

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Oh well, since Aus post sent my beans to Gove on the back of a donkey ( or maybe a Landrover :stir) I may as well let G know what they are since they may not resemble beans in 4 weeks time. The blend was Columbian Supremo/Brazil Monte and the SO was Ugandan Mt Elgon

Yes, I should have got onto SS sooner to tell her to get mine sent Express Post - anything else takes up to 3 weeks due to going to Darwin first and then coming on the weekly barge. Who knows they may still be fine! Anyway lets do a swap with each other later on and apologies for wasting your time & greens.

hazbean · August 2012

An update and pic of my beans. I usually give my beans some post-roast analysis, so I'll do the same with these. I look at the external appearance, then break some open and look at the internal colour, its gradation across the internal structure, and for signs of tipping etc. Then I chew some up and look for firmness, good underlying flavour (free of oddities) and any interesting / varietal characteristics (obviously this isn't going to tell the whole story about how the bean will "cup", but I find it to be useful). Bag 1 External: some oil showing; medium dark; looking good. Internal: somewhat lighter inside, some gradation of colour suggesting good development, no tipping at all suggesting a well controlled roast, some but not all beans showing quite a bit of oil inside, suggesting a post blend or maybe a "softer" bean. Chew: nicely firm (I look for brittleness as a sign of overroasting, certainly not evident here); good flavour, slight acidity, some fruitiness; overall very promising but of course the real test is in the cup. I suspect the roast level here had a slight touch of second crack in it. Bag 2 External: a small number of oil spots coming through; lighter; more uneven (probably due to nature of blend), and more varied in size. Internal: good; no tipping. Chew: some have a quite earthy (almost "mouldy") characteristic (not necessarily a bad thing, they remind me of a Gayo Mountain I had a while ago that always came up like this but magnificent in the cup -- maybe this is a Sumatran?). Also in this bag are some very light beans which I'm finding rather idiosyncratic. They look like quakers but probably aren't, most have an "odd" flavour but some are sweetish / floral? Puzzling. I think roast level here was just before 2C. Tomorrow we will try some shots etc. Attached is a picture, bag 1 on the left, bag 2 on the right with the lighter ones separated. The grey card is for calibration (it gives a grey point so RAW development can get rid of the inevitable fluoro colour cast). Apologies for being slow with this, work has been overpowering the last few days. [attachimg=1]

derrilex · August 2012

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Yes, I should have got onto SS sooner to tell her to get mine sent Express Post - anything else takes up to 3 weeks due to going to Darwin first and then coming on the weekly barge. Who knows they may still be fine! Anyway lets do a swap with each other later on and apologies for wasting your time & greens.

Express post ! get stuffed, I'm not paying $30 postage for $ 5 of green :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: All good G

Brett H · August 2012

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Yes, I should have got onto SS sooner to tell her to get mine sent Express Post - anything else takes up to 3 weeks due to going to Darwin first and then coming on the weekly barge. Who knows they may still be fine! Anyway lets do a swap with each other later on and apologies for wasting your time & greens.

I don't think any experience on bean swap is a waste... If someones satchel goes missing we all learn something. G, when I convince my wife that she needs a new Mac Book and buy it through You i now know that if i want to send you a thank-you it will take some time. Let's also look on the bright side... Who hasnt come home from a trip and had no coffee! There will be beans for you upon your return and I bet they'll be better even 6-7weeks post than anything you'll get in the store. I've had 8 week old beans when desperate and done better than just survive.

Brett H · August 2012

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Express post ! get stuffed, I'm not paying $30 postage for $ 5 of green :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: All good G

Nicely played sir....wait, what? :rofl:

derrilex · August 2012

I'm expecting them to be one congealed mass of oil upon G's return :rofl:

hazbean · August 2012

Tried a couple of shots with Bag 1 (pic in post #74 above) of my beans this morning. First was a semi-ristretto -- nicely rounded, very nice. For the second I made the grind a touch coarser for a normal espresso shot. This "opened up" the flavour profile considerably. At first some fleeting and pronounced fruity notes, settling down to very pleasant dark fruit wineyness ("winey" meaning complementary fruitiness and acidity, complexity and depth of flavour ie that can be appeciated in the way a good wine can). Earlier I said I thought this might be a post blend. Not so sure now. My two bags had no information with them (not that I mind, it's fun trying to guess) so could be SO + blend, two blends, two batches of one blend etc. Anyway I think there is a good chance this is an SO. If so, I suspect a Kenyan, Tanzanian, something like that. More work needed though. All in all, I think this is a very high quality coffee, and roasted with respect for its qualities. I'll also try it brewed. At first, judging by appearances, I thought it would be espresso only, but after this I think it might brew very nicely.

shape_shifter · August 2012

A little bit of feedback for Lacehim

Day 10 - Blend - they have gone oily and smell a little ashy BUT in saying that I could still pull a shot, I have to grind two steps finer than what I do for my beans, blonding happening at about 27 seconds from about 21 grams. Cap - the taste is not what it smells like, to my taste it's a little on the sour side but not enough to prevent me from drinking it, funny enough if I try to sweeten it with a little bit of sugar it then becomes more sour

I have a feeling that Lacehim has done the opposite to what I used to do, I was too afraid of burning my beans so everything was under cooked so to speak but I think Lacehim might be wanting to get the deep full body tastes and with that is going a little too far on the cooked side, of course that is just my thoughts and not anything to do with REALITY :D Comparison - my beans on the right - yes photo is dodgy... Attachment not found.

shape_shifter · August 2012

Here is the list :D Roaster Receiver Brett WotB BeanFlying Lacehim Bottomline Madpierre KK UNM Lacehim SS Madpierre Jonty WotB Ronin Jonty Bottomline Hazbean Richard Richard KK UNM Mycuppa Shapeshifter BF Mycuppa BrettH Lemoo Tango Galumay Lemoo Derrilex Galumay Ronin Hazbean Tango Derrilex

Ronin · August 2012

I had my suspicions that I was the reciepent of WotB's roasts. Now just to find out the beans/blends. BTW I have some left that I will try again tomorrow as I'm unsure how these light roasts develop. And the cold brew in the fridge too Thanks for a great experience WotB :thumb:

derrilex · August 2012

Quick update on the beans that Tango sent me. I had enough of bag 2 left to get 1 more split double. Totally different animal today. Very nice indeed and now I'm regretting smashing through both bags so quickly. Ahh well, at least I know what they were :thumb:

shape_shifter · August 2012

Second part update for Lacehim

Day 10 - Single Origin - tiny bit of oil but no where near the blend, grind was at the same step as my beans, a much lighter crema, I don't think it blonded in the 25 second pull. Cap - I don't know that the bean is to my liking, it's not sour like the blend but there is just something there that lingers on the roof of my mouth, it's not hugely unpleasant though and is easy to drink. I need to add, as it cools the 'something' seems to get milder and is more pleasant to my palate, gets a mild cocoa type flavour I think

I hope Lacehim that you remember that these are 'my' tastes, you could get something completely different and wonder what on earth I'm talking about :D Comparison against my beans (mine on the right again). Attachment not found.

Lacehim · August 2012

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A little bit of feedback for Lacehim

They where roasted just into RSC, but at least not to 3rd crack :rofl: It's interested to trying different things though, at least you get an idea about what you do, and don't like. I fully understand SS. To be honest I wasn't 100% happy with the blend roasting, but you can't always have it your way eh. The SO was Guatemala Finca Santa Clara Bourboncillo http://www.beangreen.com.au/product-info.php?pid181.html The Blend was a 30% Brazil Daterra Estate - Sweet Collection http://www.beangreen.com.au/product-info.php?pid121.html 30% PNG Wahgi AA (CS bean) and 40% of the Indonesian Java Kalistat @BF What beans did you send me? Also can you let me know how they have been roasted? ie to what depth.

Koffee_Kosmo · August 2012

This information is for my swap partner UNM Regarding the Blend and SO that was sent to him KK

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Roasting a secret special blend This blend has a Yemen, PNG, Costa Rica and Ethiopian The secret is in the prep 1) All beans were separately stabilized in low heat 2) Beans were roasted together but not pre blended 3 The roast was a stagard bean drop The hard dry grown beans were started first First the Ethiopian followed by the Yemen 30 seconds later They were followed 45 seconds later by the Costa Rica SHB and another 45 seconds later for the PNG Total green bean weight was 900 grams As this blend is destined for the bean swap I won't reveal the amounts now KK

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Roasting on the KKTO as I post on the iPad 600 grams of Guatamala Antigua Los Volcaneos It's the 100% genuine stuff Originally supplied by sponsor Mycuppa 200 grams of this SO will be separated to be sent with the blended bean swap beans KK

WotB · August 2012

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I had my suspicions that I was the reciepent of WotB's roasts. Now just to find out the beans/blends. BTW I have some left that I will try again tomorrow as I'm unsure how these light roasts develop. And the cold brew in the fridge too Thanks for a great experience WotB :thumb:

Glad to hear you enjoyed them. I think with coffee, a lot of people get caught up in the stuff a machine puts out. Then of course there's the machine snobbery (my bling's better than yours). I believe in taking coffee down to it's simplest, truest form - coffee and water, with next to zero mechanical assistance (apart from grinding). Both bags were ratio variations of the same blend. Only two beans were used; Colombia Santa Rita (known as basmati by some) and some Aussie beans (Green Cauldron Late Harvest Naturals microlot to be precise). One thing I've found with the Oz beans is that they are fantastic for filter, not nearly as good for espresso. As an SO, they just scream out those jammy characters in aroma and flavour, very "juicy" so to speak. Bit of a shame that my roasting has taken a back seat to my day (night) job.

UNM · August 2012

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Then of course there's the machine snobbery (my bling's better than yours). I believe in taking coffee down to it's simplest, truest form - coffee and water, with next to zero mechanical assistance (apart from grinding).

I am going through a phase of trying to avoid the snobbery. Many of us here are, or have been, coffee snobs at times and it is worth remembering that espresso is NOT the only/best way to enjoy coffee, just one of many. I think the bling factor with espresso does sometimes tend to blind us to the basics that we need to get right. More and more of my roasts are to the lighter end and currently through the aeropress. When weather improves will also do more CP. Having said that, I also intend to try doing some darker espresso targeted roasts rather than using a one size fits all approach as that can end up giving a roast that is less than ideal for any brew method.

Bottom Line · August 2012

I picked up my beans from the post office on Saturday. Unfortunately the single origin bag had come open and the beans were through the package. Had a quick taste on Sunday; remember light toast and little bit of burn. This morning I had a better look and pulled a couple of shots. The beans seem to be a mid roast with a small amount of scorch, like it had been exposed to an open heat source (Behmour?). Blend

Bottom Line · August 2012

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This is interesting. The blend has turned into a right crema monster, pumping out masses of beautiful creamy liquid. A short black this arvo had me pushing my left eye back into the socket, increasing brightness and acidity left me almost gasping. By the same token, a similarly increased push through the milk as well. Loving this coffee.

Thanks! I tried the blend this morning. Interesting. Not much acid at all for me. I remember it was distinctively "fat". Although I had it after the coffees from Jonty. I haven't created this blend before and one of the beans I hadn't roasted before. Bit of a "thought" blend and the "fat" was what I was after. I sent some to SS, will be good to see what she gets out of it.

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